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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by ROB25038072 on February 23, 2025, 11:10:26 am »
I see what you’re getting at, but, the exhaust in a rocket stove comes from combustion, which rapidly heats the air, causing a strong updraft due to gas expansion and high-temperature convection creating a significant pressure difference, driving airflow (with force) up the chimney.

I see a black plastic sheet heating air passively generating anywhere near the same effect. The air will warm gradually, creating a much weaker convection current. Without the extreme heat of combustion, the airflow speed and pressure difference will be low—nowhere near enough to meaningfully drive a turbine.

Even if vortex fins help guide the exhaust flow, the issue is that a cooler, passive convection system lack the energy to produce strong airflow. Rocket stoves on the other hand are very hot, and that’s what makes their exhaust forceful. I can’t visualise a solar-heated air achieving the same effect.
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by CG on February 23, 2025, 09:40:58 am »
Maybe better?
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by CG on February 23, 2025, 09:15:03 am »
Watch some videos of Rocket stoves. There's quite a force coming out the top of the chimney. I imaging the same force, yet much cooler, is available at the input also.  Then the vortex creating fins make the exhaust spin. Maybe I'll draw it up with tinkercad 3D.
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by ROB25038072 on February 23, 2025, 05:54:52 am »
Rising and spinning. The ones I saw years ago had 200 foot chimneys.

200ft puts it firmly outside my grasp😂
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by CG on February 22, 2025, 05:25:24 pm »
Rising and spinning. The ones I saw years ago had 200 foot chimneys.
Amplifier = yes
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by ROB25038072 on February 22, 2025, 03:35:58 pm »
I guess this is a bad idea 😩

Im struggling with a rising narrow column of warm air having enough kinetic energy to turn a turbine. Hence I scraped the flue idea. I’m sure it’ll turn but I can’t see there being sufficient power to do anything productive. With chimney opening up I think that might be a variation of your savonius amplifier?
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by CG on February 22, 2025, 03:04:59 pm »
I guess this is a bad idea 😩
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by CG on February 22, 2025, 09:17:27 am »
I was thinking about this design.
Sometimes you can get solar power and sometimes you can get wind power.
What if we made it with a vawt inside the chimney being spun by the vortex via solar radiation and then be able to remove the chimney when there is wind so the vawt spins just in the wind? Or put vanes in the chimney so they direct the wind on windy days
Could be used night and day, with or without wind.
The vanes can also be closed to protect the vawt from high winds.
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by CG on February 21, 2025, 04:47:46 pm »
Could make it sense to use an Evacuated Solar tube with a wind turbine on top of it?
I need more explanation.
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Solar energy / Re: Solar vortex turbine
« Last post by A. C. on February 21, 2025, 01:28:25 pm »
Could make it sense to use an Evacuated Solar tube with a wind turbine on top of it?
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